Big East Expansion: Boise State, UCF, Navy, Air Force Invites Could Go Out Next Week
According to Brett McMurphy of CBS Sports, the Big East is preparing to extend invites to Boise State, Central Florida, Navy and Air Force as early as next week. Boise State would obviously be a home run for the conference and almost ensure that it retains it's AQ status with the BCS. However, this has always been contingent on the Big East members committing to the conference. According to McMurphy, we might be nearing that point.
On Sunday the Big East's presidents and chancellors are expected to vote and approve an increased exit fee of at least $10 million for football members. That’s double the current amount ($5 million), but less than what Marinatto proposed in an Oct. 2 meeting. In that meeting there were discussions to increase the exit fee to "150 percent of the gross revenues received by a departing team in its final year in the league," according to league documents obtained by CBSSports.com.
That potential increase in exit fee is reportedly what Villanova has been waiting for (along with a team like Boise State to join to help increase TV revenue) to tell the Big East they are fully committed to moving to FBS football. Whether the league would want Villanova remains to be seen (and best guesses are they do not) - but at least this will give Villanova the chance to take themselves away from the lukewarm stance they've been holding in no position of power.
The addition of those 4 schools to the conference would bring the total football number to 10 schools - leaving 2 spots to get the conference to its desired 12 football-members. Villanova could potentially get one of those spots, but according to McMurphy, they may not be involved.
Houston, SMU and Temple are being considered for the final two spots. However, one source said Houston and SMU are expected to get the final two spots because of Villanova’s concerns about adding Temple into the league.
The key part there is that Temple would not be coming at all. That would have to be considered a win for 'Nova - as that scenario allows them to keep the Philadelphia market in the Big East to themselves. But it does kill the FBS football move.
What are everyone's thoughts on this scenario?
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No Homerun
Boise State is hardly a homerun. More like a bases loaded pop up with the infield fly rule in effect. Boise State is not a good geographic fit for the Big East and only solves the AQ issue for the short term. The Big East missed its oppurtunity to save itself as a football conference years ago with too many conflicting issues. Too many football schools now looking for an out with UConn, Rutgers, West Virginia, and Louisville willing to go to the next suitor no matter what the exit price. The Big East unfortunately is going to be dead as a football conference no matter what they do now.
Do you want to save football?
You need Boise State as football only. Period. No other team can automatically save their BCS AQ status by themselves, especially with the news of the MWC and C-USA association.
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End of the BE
The new ‘Super Conference’ announces the beginning of the end for the Big East. BCS will not be giving AQ status to the BE with the motley crue that we may manage to cobble together. The Big XII, ACC, SEC and Big Ten will all move to demolish what remains of the Big East. When Boise, Navy, and Air Force say no…we are resigned to the Catholic Basketball League and mediocrity will ensue. The money will dry up and we will be lucky to catch basketball games on ESPN3 if we are lucky. Missouri jumps to SEC; Louisville and WVU to Big XII; Uconn and Rutgers to ACC; Notre Dame finally succumbs to the Big Ten and the scraps cobble together some form of basketball league. Maybe I’m gloom and doom but I think this scenario is starting to look more likely. A few years after this debacle and Jay Wright is on his way somewhere else…
UConn may go ACC eventually
Rutgers will never find themselves there.
And ND would go to the ACC before the Big 10.
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I'm Curious...Why Do You Think Notre Dame Would Prefer ACC to Big 10?
What does the ACC (or even the SEC) have to offer Notre Dame that the Big 10 doesn’t? Notre Dame is essentially a Big 10 university already: in terms of academics, geography, history, tradition, endowments, rivalries, etc.
What’s weird is that back in ‘99, one of the biggest supporters of a move to the Big 10 was the Faculty Senate, which wanted the increased prestige of being a Big 10 university, and partaking of the greater access to research and information that is shared between conference members—the Committee on Institutional Cooperation. (Back then, it was students & alumni leading the call for independence.) The Big East, ACC, and SEC don’t have anything like that, and ND folks would consider it a step down, rather than up. All members of the Big Ten are members of the prestigious Association of American Universities (not true of any other conference), and they demand that applicant states be similarly-highly regarded. Notre Dame likes that.
Obviously, it is right in the middle of Big 10 country, and its principal rivals (Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue) reflect that—USC being the primary exception. ND has historically played every other Big 10 team (again, not true of any other conference), and as it stands, they usually play 3-5 different Big 10 schools per year, and have storied rivalries with Northwestern, Illinois, Nebraska, and Penn State.
Plus, the Big Ten is still the most lucrative conference as well: “The total profit for athletic departments in the Big Ten is $117,750,068, while the SEC, who has one more team than the Big Ten, only posts aggregate profits of $97,887,580.00. The Big Ten edges out the SEC in terms of average profit by school as well with $10,704,551.44 versus $8,157,298.33 in the SEC.” http://www.forbes.com/sites/sportsmoney/2011/01/30/how-the-big-ten-stacks-up-against-the-sec-in-sports-revenues/
So I’m certainly willing to learn from other perspectives, but with all of these factors, it always seemed to me that if ever Notre Dame moved, it’d be to the Big 10.
by Claude Savagely on Oct 15, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Primarily
ND considers itself an East Coast school. The Big 10 is full of massive public schools. The ACC has schools with a similar profile (private, good academics). ND would rather align itself with those schools, because geography and travel costs are of no concern to them.
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It would be exceedingly ironic if one day we’re reading stories about Temple’s reluctance to allow Villanova into the A-10….
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Oh come on I'm trying to enjoy my night here Jason!
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BE...
won’t lose it’s AQ status. The criteria for losing AQ status is fuzzy at best. The BE has plenty of leverage. They can leverage ESPN’s involvement with Pitt and ‘Cuse. The BE helped form the BCS. I’m sure they have plenty of documentation on the collusion and anti-trust shenanigans that went into the BCS’s formation. So long as the BCS exists and the BE has 8 schools playing football, they will be part of the BCS.
The Temple people need to stop. 2 1/2 mediocre football seasons with a marquee win against a bad Maryland team and they think they are the bee’s knees. Please. 10 years ago Temple got kicked out of the BE. I’m convinced this coach can keep the program at the “lofty” heights it’s reached now. Nova needs to protect it’s basketball product. It’s just business Temple.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 16, 2011 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
Addazio is a CT guy through and through
He has always wanted the UConn job. With the way Pasqualoni is going, it’s only a matter of time until they fire him (remember the Burton saga – and he LOVES Addazio) and if Addazio continues to win at Temple he’ll be a coach on the rise and he would leave Temple in a heartbeat.
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